Why Taylor Swift matters

Taylor Swift won album of the year at the Grammy's this week, making her the first performer to win the award four times. There are reports that her Eras tour is the first to gross over one billion dollars — and swiftonomics is really a thing. she has had a long career and feel like she is only starting.

In this edition of the Conversation Hour the team look at the cultural phenomenon that is Taylor Swift and why it took a while to her dues.